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Thursday, February 02, 2006

Donating Sperm for a Sibling? A Brother's Thoughts.

I got an interesting letter a while ago from a young man who I'll call Joseph.

"Hi. My sister & her (lesbian) partner have asked me to be a sperm donor. They joked about it five years ago. We kind of left it in the air for a bit then, as I was living abroad at the time. They turned to other possible donors, somewhat to my relief. Three possible donors later, each backing out after talks and meetings etc, they decided to try a fertility clinic.

We live in Ireland where no such service exists or (I think) is legal - for lesbians. In the last year they have gone 7 times. Each time was unsuccessful, each time with less and less trust in the system - there is no personal touch, no feeling of getting good service from the clinic...the prices are going up, and they feel - being 'foreigners' they are being ripped off. That's all tied up with the anguish and emotions, the fertility drugs etc., etc.

About five weeks ago they came back to me - their original first preference. I've grown up, am 34 and have very different views to 7 years ago, but I am very worried. Being a donor is one thing, being the child's uncle and father is another. They gave me a book which is very much from a woman's point of view. I'm not finding much sensitivity for the man, the donor. Even the donor's experiences seem to be coming from men who are very unattached to their sperm.

I don't think I sound crazy. But I am afraid that if I donate I will be part of something very real, a reality I will want to be part of. But what happens then? I want to help my sister, I want to help her partner. But what about my parents? What about me? I've never been given the opportunity to be a dad before. I thought that was taken from me once I came out to myself 17 years ago. I need to talk to someone who has had similar experiences, those who did it and those who didn't. I'd appreciate your comments.

Joseph - Ireland."


This was my response:

"Dear Joseph,

Thank you for contacting us. I read your story and I think that it's very good that you're taking the matter so seriously.

I would be happy to post your question on Fertility Stories along with any answers we receive. Let me know if you are interested.

Personally, I think that there are a lot of issues involved: You would be placed in an un-natural relationship with your sister, being a co-parent to her child (which, actually, biologically would be your child). What would your legal obligations be? What would your sister and her partner's expectations be from you? What would happen if your sister and her partner decide to dissolve their relationship? Would you have visitation with the child? Have to pay child support? What if you disagree with the education they choose for the child?

It seems the matter is very complicated and would have very long-term effects on your life.

I also think you are correct in that most donors have no desire to have any sort of connection with the children born of their sperm - this has its advantages, such as keeping just the 'parents' in the picture (particularly in heterosexual couples).

I look forward to hearing from you.

Rachel"


Joseph's response:

"Hi Rachel,

Thank you for your reply. I think posting my query may be a good thing, as I need some real life experience feedback. My friends are differing very much in their opinions. Some flat out no's. Others are envious.

I'm not sure if I was clear - I am gay as well as my sister. My sister is 2 years older than I and we are very alike in looks, mannerisms and personality - strong family line hey! No wonder I am their number one choice. Since I have taken on this consideration seriously my mind has wavered and weaved from positive to negative, from fear to excitement. Each step has ramifications in each and every direction. Yep, I'm feeling a little overloaded. I'm not under pressure, although a 'no' is not going to go down well.

The need, want, to have a child I think has heightened this year with the treatments and drugs, I think my sister's girlfriend is more than ready and 'wants a baby'. I was worried about my sister. I was leaning towards a negative gut feeling up until we actually sat and talked about it. I was concerned my sister was being pushed into this, her partner is persuasive and I wondered if, like me, my sister had never really thought about having kids before. It's so hard to know...maybe if I was lucky enough to be in a long term relationship and my partner was the family kind, and I loved him dearly, then yes I think I would want to have a family.

There is so much uncertainty… And that's before the legalities. I already know that there are no legalities. I mean, there is nothing in place to protect me, as a donor - to remain just a donor. No law exists in Ireland to prevent my sister &/or her girlfriend from claiming child welfare. Would I argue it? If things were to change? How could I? The child would be biologically mine. But trust is the bind. I trust my sister, her girlfriend. I trust their ability to bring a child up well. I trust them that should circumstances change, they would not turn on me.

I know to anyone reading this I may sound very selfish, but I am trying to get to the heart of why I want to do it, why I don't. Part of me thinks - stop thinking, just do it, you can't know the outcome - who knows the outcome of a child, the conception, the birth, the life. The changing of all relationships as time passes. None of it can be controlled. Is that a positive or negative?

Thanks for listening,
Joseph"

We look forward to your comments.

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7 Comments:

  • I came across this site while doing a search in Google about sperm donation. I found a very interesting post about a man "Joseph" who was wondering if he should or shouldn't donate his sperm to his sister and her partner.

    I am interested in his story because I had a similar one but I decided to donate to my sister and her partner and now they are proud parents of a baby girl. They went through the same odyssey as Joseph's sister and her partner. At the end they asked me to be their sperm donor.

    I had to think about this but I accepted. I guess Joseph would put me between the "men who are very unattached to their sperm". After helping them, they asked me to help other couples that they knew. So far I have helped 2 other lesbian couples to conceive a baby and now I'm helping another one. I never had problems about giving "my babies" to other people; do you think I'm heartless? Maybe, but I do believe that fatherhood is something that you have to build little by little. An ejaculation doesn't make you a father. Even with my sister's daughter, I don't consider her my daughter -I don't have these kinds of feelings toward her. I'm heterosexual and one day if I meet the woman of my dreams I will create a family with her and the babies I'll conceive with her will be mine.

    I like to be a sperm donor because I think that every woman should be allowed to be a mother regardless of her sexual preferences. These women are very good women and they really want to build a family and I thought it was a very good thing to help them to realize their dream. I'm not a naive man and I'm aware of the risks of sperm donation, as Joseph said. Sadly, we donors we don't have any rights and we are not protected, so if someday one of the couples I helped will ask me for child support or money I will take all my responsibilities. It's a big risk, I know, but if you don't risk in your life you will never live. Anyway, as I already said, I'm aware of what I'm doing and about all the troubles I could run into but I will still donate.

    I grew up in an all female family so I really love women, they are precious stones for me and this is why I want to help them. My mother has always worked for women's rights - since she was young - so she's very supportive of me. She likes what I'm doing and she encourages me do to more. So now I guess you will think: ok here is a happy donor!! Oh well it's not completely true there are also a couple of side effects:

    - Lesbians are not very kind with sperm donors. Most of them consider us not like human beings but just like, as an old feminist used to say, (having growing up in a feminist family I know this)"walking dildos". When everything started we didn't know anything about home insemination so since I can read English very well I started searching the internet for information about home insemination. I came across a large number of lesbian forums and groups about this subject and donors were considered an "object". I remember a woman who was saying that she "used" her donor many times in a row without any problems like he was just a sperm dispenser. I found a lot of this, of course I can't speak for everyone, I also met very kind women, but most lesbians treat men just like sperm containers. I'd like to believe that it's a form of "defense" - that it's easier to deal with just a "sterile cup" than dealing with a man. If they see the man as an object it will make things easier for them.
    - I'm single now but I worry what my wife will think and say when she knows that I'm a sperm donor. I had a story with a woman last year: the second couple I helped did the insemination in a clinic so I had to donate there and I met a nurse and so she knew from the start that I was a donor and it was ok with her, but I don't know if it will be the same for the next woman.

    By Anonymous Franco (Italy), at 12:35 PM  

  • I am very interested in this story because it is happening in my life right now. My husband has been asked to donate his sperm to his sister and her partner. I already have children from a previous marriage and my now husband and I decided not to have any of our 'own'. Having said that, I am uneasy with his having a child with/for someone else. The emotions I have are so mixed and although he and I have talked about it a little, I can't seem to put my feelings into words. On one hand, I think it's a wonderful gift! Being able to help someone else have a child, especially a child with your own 'genes' so to speak would be awesome!!! On the flip side, because he has no children of his 'own', how attached would be be once this child is born? I also think of the future of this child and what, if anything, would be told to him/her. There are so many other things I am thinking about, but just can't seem to voice! I would love to hear from anyone that has any advice for me! Thank you!!

    Confused!

    By Blogger Confused, at 6:52 AM  

  • Here is a flip side to the coin. My husband was diagnosed with azoospermia. Our dreams of having children naturally was shattered. Years later we decided that a life without children didn't really fit in with our dreams, so we went on a donor list. A year later we are now at the top of the list and got issued with 4 profiles. Not one even coming close in resemblance to my husband.
    It was shortly after this that friends had had a baby and I comented that the child looked exactly like the father. His response was "I'll never experience that..."
    My brother in law is 32 and single, my heart craves for him to be a donor. But it's my husband who says it would be too weird.
    It's breaking my heart, because I know that if it were my brother or sister in my shoes, i would never hesitate to help them out.
    I know the nights I have cried myself to sleep, desiring a child.
    But I don't just want anyones child...I want a part of him...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:10 AM  

  • Thank you for your comment. This is the sort of thing I need, is feedback from other people.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:50 AM  

  • I am in exactly same situation as Joseph. My sister and her partner have asked me recently to donate sperm so they would have the kids. I have been debating about doing it for them. With the legal, political and rights for lesbian couples out there is not treated fair. I am gay myself. I know I never will have kids of my own,it is for my own personal choices, but giving kids for my sister and her partner. That would make their world brighter for them. I am looking for more feedbacks. Anyone can help?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:46 PM  

  • I am in a very similar situation, just not with a lesbian couple. My brother has had a long history of health problems leading to an inability to concieve. He has asked me and my two other brothers to create a "cocktail" to inseminate his wife. One other brother is married, one in a new relationship, and I have been with my girlfriend for 7 years now and intend to marry and have children with her. The married brother has said no, the other has said yes. I dont know what to do.

    My first reaction to the question was, "of course, I'd do anyhting for my brother." My girlfriend does not see it this way, and is opposed to it entirtely. This puts me in the middle - two people I would do anything for asking me to do contradictory things. I am a mess over it, and just don't know what to do. I go from angry at both my girlfriend and brother to sad to confused to detached, and cant get around it. To make matters worse, my parents are playing the guilt game on those of us that are reluctant. I suppose they have the same drive to have a biological grandchild as my brother has for a biological child. His current wife has a young son from a previous marriage as well.

    I get caught here - If genetics matters enough for me to donate, then doesn't it matter enough for the child to be mine, to create a strong desire in the future for it to be mine entirely? I guess if genetics matters, it matters and the child would be mine (or another brothers, which really just adds uncertainty.) So there is an inhereny tautology in all this - genetics both matters and doesn't.

    I also worry about the other child. He is around 6 now, but has known my brother as his dad since about 2. How will he feel? Wont he see that genetics matters to his father, enough that he would go to these extremes?

    In the end I feel it is a very selfish question to ask of someone. It amounts to asking for my first born child. My girlfriend cant handle the thought, but I want to be a good brother and person. I dont know what to do. It is drving me crazy. To top it off, they are very impatient and want an answer before her next period. I just cant take it.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:42 AM  

  • Any updates on this? I'm facing the same situation?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:37 PM  

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